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It just seems to be the fault of both guilds not hammering out the fine print/details about the alliance..... For one, TSF was never really told about the fact that we would not be raiding w/ you guys and that you would be spot fillers for our raids, and I think the same can be said for CSC members not knowing that they can sign up or contact us about raids. I personally think that both leaders need to sit down again and hammer this out once and for all before it gets worse

I appreciate your respect Corellon. And that brings up a good point. Why am I being asked to post raids and such on CSCs site when NOONE has posted not one thing on ours (and yes that includes your leaders). I would be happy to post future raids on your site, but we also expect the same respect of ya'll. And as to Maube saying that Cal was the only one to sign up, that is completely untrue. I check your raids signups on a daily basis and see TSF members signing up and getting snubbed. As far as him being ostricized, I personally did it because he time and time again didn't come to TSF raids because he was raiding w/ CSC......That is not a good guildie, so I let him know. One last thing, I DO NOT appreciate being personally attacked or being singled out for expressing the opinion of my whole guild. This "discussion" was in no way about just me not getting into raids. It is about the fact that supposedly we are in an "alliance" and I feel that TSF has tried to do its part and CSC has pretty much done nothing. I will now refrain from adding to this discussion anymore until TSF has an officer's meeting as soon as Jerika or Peeta logs on, and I do apologize for starting this whole rabble, but as I said before I was tired of hearing all the gripes from people in TSF and decided that somebody had to bring this topic up Maube, the reason why those 4 don't sign up anymore is from the reasons I have brought up......And I did contact Baracko before in tells about this a few weeks ago.....And well....Obviously nothing was done

We have raids EVERY thursday......For ZG and AQ, we usually have about 12-15 show up. We are also in the works of finding another day that is good for the guildies to raid. Unfortunately, we don't have the numbers to even attempt a MC raid because we couldn't fill even half of it. We are short on priests and druids (mainly cuz some of them left for others guilds so that they can actually raid). And no, my rant wasn't mainly about raiding, it's about how an alliance should work, but since I'm still getting the same generic response from all of you on this matter, I am done discussing this. If you truly are interested in filling any spots for our raids, send a message to Peeta, Jerika, Ishbal, Rakdur, Linet, or myself

It does....... But we also have tried to have our own TSF raids, and since we don't have the #'s for some reason, we HAVE asked CSC members to help fill slots....... And NO CSC members have showed..... So you're idea is good in theory, but actions speak louder than words. It just seems that CSC just doesn't really care at all, so why start an alliance w/ someone?...... And your reply still doesn't account for the large # of members CSC has taken from us I don't mean to rant, but it seems that every allince we have ever made ends up screwing us somehow, and frankly that is not fair at all to us. So I do apologize for the rant, but they are things that most everyone in TSF feels.

Ok, so supposedly TSF and CSC have an "alliance".......But well.....I guess it's in title only. Alot of people in TSF are upset in how no one in the guild gets into ANY of your raids, but if one does, they get "stolen" by CSC. An alliance is not to take another guilds members, but instead is to help each other out...... Which CSC has yet to ever do. Me for one have been the 1st person to sign up for some raids and have NEVER gotten in one. I know you give priority to those who raid all the time. That may be fine if you aren't in an alliance, but since we supposedly are, it would be nice for CSC to act like one for once. Rant over....... And I know this ruins all my chances of being in your raids, but these things needed to be said. As an officer of TSF, I am sick and tired of hearing all the gripes about CSC and thier raiding system, so I am posting this for not just me, but any TSF member that has been snuffed by your raid leaders time and time again Homoginized 60 Tauren Warrior "And yes, I am the same consistancy through and through"